First off, WHY would a breeder want more than one stallion?
Seems like stud fees are a lot cheaper than paying for hay, promoting the stallion and PROVING it (which is sadly what most of the breeders I'm talking about bypass first, when it SHOULD be the promoting...).
So without further ado, here are some horrific examples of what is being peddled off as 'stallion quality'...
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=113761
Just because a horse is both A.) male and B.) a double dilute does NOT make it a stallion prospect!!! Good LORD, that colt's sire (as seen on their Please visit our website for more foals link from the ad) has some CROOKED front legs, and has very little going for him... besides, of course, the qualities listed above. Which, now that I think about it, makes perfect sense... that's obviously their only criteria. Nuts and Color.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=107424
Again, homozygous black genes do NOT a stud prospect make... this colt's obviously pretty cow hocked, and at the odd picture angle, also appears to have a long back and crooked front legs as well.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=122697
Holy Freakin Long Pasterns! No pedigree and a strange-looking neck make this colt the ULTIMATE moron backyard breeder prospect. GELD HIM, I don't care HOW GOOD HE IS AROUND MARES... GEEEEEEEEZ!
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=122280
This ad just speaks for itself... yikes.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=122286
I like how they say 'use him as a stallion prospect OR train him in cutting and reining.' Like you can't do both, because, y'know, that would void the code of the moron breeder: thou shalt not breed with proven animals.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=121619
Ew. This colt not only has ancestors that are KNOWN producers of the HERDA gene, but if you look closely, he looks to have very looooong pasterns. And what does "HE HAS BEEN PLAY SENCE BIRTH" mean?
No WONDER the market is in the toilet... if this is what is out there being bought as stallion material...
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Friday, October 19, 2007
Foundation Quarter Horses... a pet peeve of mine.
I LOVE the TRUE foundation quarter horse.
But the absolute CRAP that is being put out there as 'foundation' based SOLELY on a percentage of 'foundation' in a pedigree is absolutely APPALLING.
The rescues are full... not just of Quarter Horses, but of all breeds. Quarter Horses, Paints and Thoroughbreds seem to dominate, however.
I'd never have any part in a foundation registry, I find them repulsive. The majority of horses registered by them are ASTOUNDING in their mediocrity, and the fact that they are producing at rapidly climbing rates and filling our auction houses and rescues is frightening.
That, and they STILL won't come out and advocate for testing of Poco Bueno-bred horses for HERDA... which is absolutely the stupidest thing I've EVER HEARD - EVER. Talk about the big eye-opener... excluding horses with Impressive bloodlines (even the N/N ones... which goes to show how incredibly IGNORANT they are...), and then having your own beloved Poco Bueno become the primary source of a genetic condition... much like Impressive himself. Hysterical, and KARMA in the extreme if ever I've heard it.
Horses like Geronimo... why is he in a rescue? Because his owners ran out of food for their horses? Maybe because they COULDN'T SELL THEIR LONG-BACKED, CROOKED LEGGED HORSES, BUT KEPT BREEDING THEM ANYWAY!
http://www.t-bar.org/horseindexPg5.htm
A friend of mine, Susan Larkin, has been an outspoken and very educated advocate for the promotion of adding Thoroughbred blood in the Quarter Horse breed.
I thought I'd highlight a few foundation 'non-eligible' horses that are absolutely OUTSTANDING among their peers.
Rugged Lark
http://tinyurl.com/23v6kj
Talk about a stallion who has 'survived the fads' (which is supposedly the foundation breeders claim to fame...), he's incredible, his offspring are all very nice, and his blood in a pedigree is still highly valued.
Holland Ease
http://www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=198
A stallion I have long admired, he is a sire of sires as proven by his son, Corona Cartel.
And before you say that Quarter Horses with high amounts of thoroughbred blood are good for nothing besides racing and barrels, check out these guys:
A Streak Of Fling
http://www.fultonranch.com/fultonAStreakOfFling.htm
Skys Blue Boy
http://www.skysblueboy.com/skysblueboy.htm
Te N Te
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/te+n+te2
I'm not saying DON'T breed foundation quarter horses. I AM saying DO IT INTELLIGENTLY.
But the absolute CRAP that is being put out there as 'foundation' based SOLELY on a percentage of 'foundation' in a pedigree is absolutely APPALLING.
The rescues are full... not just of Quarter Horses, but of all breeds. Quarter Horses, Paints and Thoroughbreds seem to dominate, however.
I'd never have any part in a foundation registry, I find them repulsive. The majority of horses registered by them are ASTOUNDING in their mediocrity, and the fact that they are producing at rapidly climbing rates and filling our auction houses and rescues is frightening.
That, and they STILL won't come out and advocate for testing of Poco Bueno-bred horses for HERDA... which is absolutely the stupidest thing I've EVER HEARD - EVER. Talk about the big eye-opener... excluding horses with Impressive bloodlines (even the N/N ones... which goes to show how incredibly IGNORANT they are...), and then having your own beloved Poco Bueno become the primary source of a genetic condition... much like Impressive himself. Hysterical, and KARMA in the extreme if ever I've heard it.
Horses like Geronimo... why is he in a rescue? Because his owners ran out of food for their horses? Maybe because they COULDN'T SELL THEIR LONG-BACKED, CROOKED LEGGED HORSES, BUT KEPT BREEDING THEM ANYWAY!
http://www.t-bar.org/horseindexPg5.htm
A friend of mine, Susan Larkin, has been an outspoken and very educated advocate for the promotion of adding Thoroughbred blood in the Quarter Horse breed.
I thought I'd highlight a few foundation 'non-eligible' horses that are absolutely OUTSTANDING among their peers.
Rugged Lark
http://tinyurl.com/23v6kj
Talk about a stallion who has 'survived the fads' (which is supposedly the foundation breeders claim to fame...), he's incredible, his offspring are all very nice, and his blood in a pedigree is still highly valued.
Holland Ease
http://www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=198
A stallion I have long admired, he is a sire of sires as proven by his son, Corona Cartel.
And before you say that Quarter Horses with high amounts of thoroughbred blood are good for nothing besides racing and barrels, check out these guys:
A Streak Of Fling
http://www.fultonranch.com/fultonAStreakOfFling.htm
Skys Blue Boy
http://www.skysblueboy.com/skysblueboy.htm
Te N Te
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/te+n+te2
I'm not saying DON'T breed foundation quarter horses. I AM saying DO IT INTELLIGENTLY.
- Don't linebreed Poco Bueno anymore, unless the horses involved are tested for HERDA.
- Don't breed horses based solely on color and foundation percentage. All that does is create ugly, relatively unuseable but marketable-to-the-irresponsible-and-uneducated type of horses. And they in turn go on to produce more fugly-but-colored animals that people don't seem to have enough sense not to keep breeding.
- DO SOME DAMNED RESEARCH! AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN READING JUST READING A FEW 'NICE STORIES' IN THE AQHA LEGEND BOOKS - IT MEANS GETTING THE REAL STORY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO BREED RESPONSIBLY AND SUCCESSFULLY WITH THE BLOODLINES YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
That's all. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.
Check out www.unwantedhorsecoalition.org ... it's something we ALL should read and understand.
Monday, October 15, 2007
A word about broodmares...
WHY does everything with a uterus have to be advertised as a broodmare?!
I am a STRONG advocate for SPAYING MARES AS OFTEN AS STALLIONS GET GELDED!!!
That way, morons with no clue about conformation or pedigree wouldn't be tempted to breed animals that have NO BUSINESS adding to the gene pool.
Yay, crappy knees AND a back as long as a dachshunds! Weiner dog horses, hooray!
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=120794
Wait a second... is that a llama? Or a sheep? Who cares, she's dunalino! *This has to be the ugliest mare I have seen in a LONG LONG TIME... CRIPES, she looks like a whats-what of conformational flaws!* AND SHE'S BRED!
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=104546
Hey, y'know, they sell mustangs for buy-one-get-one-free sales for a $150 ALL THE TIME... so she should bring fifty bucks less than this.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=107385
"She has the conformation of foundation stock" ... which is crooked front legs, low pasterns, a short thick neck and a long back. SCORE!
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad246495
Yikes... those front legs! Among other things!
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad241847
Can we say 'Short neck, ties in too high'? JEEZ, I'd be afraid she'd whonk me in the face if she ever got to tossing her head! Oh, I forgot... most foundation folks don't even break their broodmares to ride. So I guess it won't be a problem as long as she keeps throwing dilutes.
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad231044
And the short-thick neck award goes to...
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad224837
This is just disgusting to me. The topline on this mare, it looks like the ridgeline of a barn. Her neck is absolutely heinous... yet... she sold for $2,500!! GOOD GAWD, was someone actually stupid enough to PAY THAT for her?!
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad242181
Alright... discuss. :)
I am a STRONG advocate for SPAYING MARES AS OFTEN AS STALLIONS GET GELDED!!!
That way, morons with no clue about conformation or pedigree wouldn't be tempted to breed animals that have NO BUSINESS adding to the gene pool.
Yay, crappy knees AND a back as long as a dachshunds! Weiner dog horses, hooray!
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=120794
Wait a second... is that a llama? Or a sheep? Who cares, she's dunalino! *This has to be the ugliest mare I have seen in a LONG LONG TIME... CRIPES, she looks like a whats-what of conformational flaws!* AND SHE'S BRED!
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=104546
Hey, y'know, they sell mustangs for buy-one-get-one-free sales for a $150 ALL THE TIME... so she should bring fifty bucks less than this.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=107385
"She has the conformation of foundation stock" ... which is crooked front legs, low pasterns, a short thick neck and a long back. SCORE!
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad246495
Yikes... those front legs! Among other things!
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad241847
Can we say 'Short neck, ties in too high'? JEEZ, I'd be afraid she'd whonk me in the face if she ever got to tossing her head! Oh, I forgot... most foundation folks don't even break their broodmares to ride. So I guess it won't be a problem as long as she keeps throwing dilutes.
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad231044
And the short-thick neck award goes to...
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad224837
This is just disgusting to me. The topline on this mare, it looks like the ridgeline of a barn. Her neck is absolutely heinous... yet... she sold for $2,500!! GOOD GAWD, was someone actually stupid enough to PAY THAT for her?!
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad242181
Alright... discuss. :)
Saturday, October 13, 2007
Top Fugly Stock Horse Breeders #2
I noticed that there were 133 views of my blog... but only For The Future Of The Breed posted...
POST, people! Go ahead! If you feel as I do about these folks, stand up! Because the only way I can think of to get these people to take a better look at what they are doing to the horse industry - more specifically the STOCK HORSE industry - is to call them out, one by one, and tell it like it is.
I have not one but TWO for you today:
http://www.pocopassion.com/pphome.html
and
http://www1.freewebs.com/rmquarterhorses/
First off... the Poco Passion breeders... do they test for HERDA? NOPE. Do they care about much of anything besides a horse being linebred Poco Bueno and foundation registry eligible? Obviously, not really. SUPER. They are akin to the breeders of H/H horses in my eyes... I can't believe someone would do something so blatantly ignorant as to CONTINUE to linebreed untested Poco Bueno offspring. I sincerely hope that, since I don't think this site gets updated very often, that they have realized that there is new testing available for HERDA and have utilized it.
Otherwise, they really ARE just like the HYPP H/H breeders.
Second point... I HATE IT when a breeder attempts to sell out their religion to feign a 'trustworthy' feeling among the people who are potential buyers and breeders. The second website quotes the Bible at the top of the page... that's just wrong. While I have no problem with people of faith, I DO have a problem when people attempt to use it when they are promoting or selling something. To me, that smudges the line of integrity... would you bring your Ebay sales to church on Sunday? NO, it's just like Jim and Tammy Faye begging for money and using The Lord as a way to siphon money off the people who assume that, if they SAY they love the Lord and that all the money goes to a good place, well, then it must be so.
Puhleez, nobody buys it.
Poco Passion, aside from all your horses possibly carrying a life-threatening genetic disorder, they almost all have long backs and weird legs. AT LEAST TEST YOUR HORSES FOR HERDA!
RM Quarter Horses, your stallion has an exceedingly short neck. He also has no REAL pedigree power... anything past the grandparents brings such a small amount to the breeding equation it's not even funny. He also has a long back. To cap it off, he's got an ugly head with a little tiny eye. That first colt on your sales page is NOT a stud prospect, unless you are trying to fill the world with poorly-bred mediocre horses. I doubt that serving the Lord will protect these horses in the latter parts of their lives, when they quite possibly will find their way onto a slaughter truck or going through a low-rent auction.
If anybody else has one, feel free to post it!
POST, people! Go ahead! If you feel as I do about these folks, stand up! Because the only way I can think of to get these people to take a better look at what they are doing to the horse industry - more specifically the STOCK HORSE industry - is to call them out, one by one, and tell it like it is.
I have not one but TWO for you today:
http://www.pocopassion.com/pphome.html
and
http://www1.freewebs.com/rmquarterhorses/
First off... the Poco Passion breeders... do they test for HERDA? NOPE. Do they care about much of anything besides a horse being linebred Poco Bueno and foundation registry eligible? Obviously, not really. SUPER. They are akin to the breeders of H/H horses in my eyes... I can't believe someone would do something so blatantly ignorant as to CONTINUE to linebreed untested Poco Bueno offspring. I sincerely hope that, since I don't think this site gets updated very often, that they have realized that there is new testing available for HERDA and have utilized it.
Otherwise, they really ARE just like the HYPP H/H breeders.
Second point... I HATE IT when a breeder attempts to sell out their religion to feign a 'trustworthy' feeling among the people who are potential buyers and breeders. The second website quotes the Bible at the top of the page... that's just wrong. While I have no problem with people of faith, I DO have a problem when people attempt to use it when they are promoting or selling something. To me, that smudges the line of integrity... would you bring your Ebay sales to church on Sunday? NO, it's just like Jim and Tammy Faye begging for money and using The Lord as a way to siphon money off the people who assume that, if they SAY they love the Lord and that all the money goes to a good place, well, then it must be so.
Puhleez, nobody buys it.
Poco Passion, aside from all your horses possibly carrying a life-threatening genetic disorder, they almost all have long backs and weird legs. AT LEAST TEST YOUR HORSES FOR HERDA!
RM Quarter Horses, your stallion has an exceedingly short neck. He also has no REAL pedigree power... anything past the grandparents brings such a small amount to the breeding equation it's not even funny. He also has a long back. To cap it off, he's got an ugly head with a little tiny eye. That first colt on your sales page is NOT a stud prospect, unless you are trying to fill the world with poorly-bred mediocre horses. I doubt that serving the Lord will protect these horses in the latter parts of their lives, when they quite possibly will find their way onto a slaughter truck or going through a low-rent auction.
If anybody else has one, feel free to post it!
Friday, October 12, 2007
The Top Fugly Stock Horse Breeders
Let's start off by saying I am not a breeder.
I am affiliated with several different breeding programs, but as busy as I am these days with the rest of my life, I don't have the time or money to breed the caliber of horses I feel need to be reproducing.
That said, the real POINT of this blog is intended to point the fingers at some truly poor breeders who have either not enough knowledge on the subject or not enough integrity to care about the quality of animals they use in their breeding programs.
Without further ado, I give you my first example:
http://www.circle-s-quarter-horses.com/
What in the HELL are they thinking? Not ONE of those EIGHT stallions are worth a shit! NOT ONE!
WHY WHY WHY do they breed those horses?!
Because they are colorful, and morons that don't know any better will buy them.
And likely breed them (of course!).
This is EXACTLY why I hate the foundation registries. I LOVE the foundation quarter horse. Those poorly-conformed mediocre horses are, in my eyes, not worthy of being called foundation. But, of course, they are... because the foundation registry cares NOT what a horse looks like...
Pedigree alone won't do. It's got to be the total package, which of course everyone claims to have... but honestly, if everyone had the 'total package' and was breeding high quality, would the horse market be what it is today?
I am affiliated with several different breeding programs, but as busy as I am these days with the rest of my life, I don't have the time or money to breed the caliber of horses I feel need to be reproducing.
That said, the real POINT of this blog is intended to point the fingers at some truly poor breeders who have either not enough knowledge on the subject or not enough integrity to care about the quality of animals they use in their breeding programs.
Without further ado, I give you my first example:
http://www.circle-s-quarter-horses.com/
What in the HELL are they thinking? Not ONE of those EIGHT stallions are worth a shit! NOT ONE!
WHY WHY WHY do they breed those horses?!
Because they are colorful, and morons that don't know any better will buy them.
And likely breed them (of course!).
This is EXACTLY why I hate the foundation registries. I LOVE the foundation quarter horse. Those poorly-conformed mediocre horses are, in my eyes, not worthy of being called foundation. But, of course, they are... because the foundation registry cares NOT what a horse looks like...
Pedigree alone won't do. It's got to be the total package, which of course everyone claims to have... but honestly, if everyone had the 'total package' and was breeding high quality, would the horse market be what it is today?
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